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There was some controversy and disagreement with the idea of eliminating fighters who did not draw their first fights, and people unaware that if they failed to draw a fight in any round that they would then be eliminated. The fact that this was not written in the rules was an oversight and I, on the behalf of 
will apologize. It should have been made clear, and not assumed.
While we will make allowances this one time as it was a mistake on our behalf, I want to try explain the reasoning behind the rule, so hopefully you will see where we are coming from. Hopefully it inspires you to submit anything within the time limit, to find whatever time you have early morning, late at night or on the weekend, just to make some progress with your entry, to start something early, so then you have a solid foundation to fall back on if you are running out of time.
In AFL, it has long been a rule that if you don't draw the first fight, you progress no further, essentially, eliminated, and the same applies with Planet AFL. The differences with this set-up is the bi-weekly deadlines - and because of these deadlines, the whole 'catch-up system' doesn't work as it did in previous AFLs. Before, you could literally not draw anything for 3 weeks, then blast through 5 fights in the last week, playing catch up, as long as you drew something, you were rewarded with a fight.
But that is the way it has always been, every artist is expected to draw. You sign up to draw fights and see your opponent draw your character. If you're running out of time, post something, anything. While I am not particularly fond of rushed entries, and I know even though people are given a long 2 week deadline as opposed to 30 days to draw as much as possible like before, people will still only think of drawing the final 2 days of that deadline. I don't want people to be post artwork that they are ashamed of, even though I say post anything, but that's what scraps are for, and you can always go back and tidy things up or delete it at a later date.
However, if we don't punish those who don't draw, then we are letting them get off lightly, while the people who do draw as the ones getting punished, as they are the ones not receiving fanart. The ones who don't draw get comics of their character without doing anything. It's a cynical outlook, but I have been in tournaments or art trade exchanges, I have held multiple tournaments, and I know there's no guarantee that they will draw in round 2, or round 3 etc. The cynic in me thinks if we let someone go, they could go the entire tournament without drawing anything, all the while receiving fanart of their character.
We had people quit this round because they couldn't meet the deadline. If we don't kick people out for doing the same, then those people didnt need to quit in the first place. They could complain about being let back in. If we allow those to not draw for round 1, then we may as well have not had a deadline for the sign up for the competition, and we have had to turn away a lot of people who heard about the tournament late on. It means that anyone could sign up at any time in the tournament if meeting a drawing deadline was no longer important, if the idea of competition was no longer important.
Is there a fair way to do this? Probably not to keep everyone happy. The rules should have stated early on, and that was an oversight, but I guess in this competition setting, it's just expected. If you don't draw, why should you be allowed to continue? It's contentious, and I understand what people are saying.
Myself and have extensively discussed this rule. We have considered changing it, bowing to pressure, to want to see more from the artists eliminated, but we have to be strong with the decisions as if we allow people to have a second chance, then that opens the door for anyone. It means if you dont feel like drawing round 2, you dont have to, because you know you will still be in round 3, or 4, or 5...
Maybe it's cynical thinking, but I have done a lot of these tournaments with a lot of dropouts. I just think it's unfair to those who are facing someone who doesn't draw their part of the fight, as that's one less piece of fanart they will receive, which could dishearten them into continuing with the tournament. Just think, how would you feel if you were on the receiving end, or if you saw someone do that more than once while you and others are working hard?
When I think like that, I think the decision we originally made was for the best, or had the best intentions at heart, an moving forward I hope others can agree or at least see to that side of the argument.
will apologize. It should have been made clear, and not assumed. While we will make allowances this one time as it was a mistake on our behalf, I want to try explain the reasoning behind the rule, so hopefully you will see where we are coming from. Hopefully it inspires you to submit anything within the time limit, to find whatever time you have early morning, late at night or on the weekend, just to make some progress with your entry, to start something early, so then you have a solid foundation to fall back on if you are running out of time.
In AFL, it has long been a rule that if you don't draw the first fight, you progress no further, essentially, eliminated, and the same applies with Planet AFL. The differences with this set-up is the bi-weekly deadlines - and because of these deadlines, the whole 'catch-up system' doesn't work as it did in previous AFLs. Before, you could literally not draw anything for 3 weeks, then blast through 5 fights in the last week, playing catch up, as long as you drew something, you were rewarded with a fight.
But that is the way it has always been, every artist is expected to draw. You sign up to draw fights and see your opponent draw your character. If you're running out of time, post something, anything. While I am not particularly fond of rushed entries, and I know even though people are given a long 2 week deadline as opposed to 30 days to draw as much as possible like before, people will still only think of drawing the final 2 days of that deadline. I don't want people to be post artwork that they are ashamed of, even though I say post anything, but that's what scraps are for, and you can always go back and tidy things up or delete it at a later date.
However, if we don't punish those who don't draw, then we are letting them get off lightly, while the people who do draw as the ones getting punished, as they are the ones not receiving fanart. The ones who don't draw get comics of their character without doing anything. It's a cynical outlook, but I have been in tournaments or art trade exchanges, I have held multiple tournaments, and I know there's no guarantee that they will draw in round 2, or round 3 etc. The cynic in me thinks if we let someone go, they could go the entire tournament without drawing anything, all the while receiving fanart of their character.
We had people quit this round because they couldn't meet the deadline. If we don't kick people out for doing the same, then those people didnt need to quit in the first place. They could complain about being let back in. If we allow those to not draw for round 1, then we may as well have not had a deadline for the sign up for the competition, and we have had to turn away a lot of people who heard about the tournament late on. It means that anyone could sign up at any time in the tournament if meeting a drawing deadline was no longer important, if the idea of competition was no longer important.
Is there a fair way to do this? Probably not to keep everyone happy. The rules should have stated early on, and that was an oversight, but I guess in this competition setting, it's just expected. If you don't draw, why should you be allowed to continue? It's contentious, and I understand what people are saying.
Myself and
have extensively discussed this rule. We have considered changing it, bowing to pressure, to want to see more from the artists eliminated, but we have to be strong with the decisions as if we allow people to have a second chance, then that opens the door for anyone. It means if you dont feel like drawing round 2, you dont have to, because you know you will still be in round 3, or 4, or 5...Maybe it's cynical thinking, but I have done a lot of these tournaments with a lot of dropouts. I just think it's unfair to those who are facing someone who doesn't draw their part of the fight, as that's one less piece of fanart they will receive, which could dishearten them into continuing with the tournament. Just think, how would you feel if you were on the receiving end, or if you saw someone do that more than once while you and others are working hard?
When I think like that, I think the decision we originally made was for the best, or had the best intentions at heart, an moving forward I hope others can agree or at least see to that side of the argument.
Was feeling nostalgic
Had some good times here. Enjoyed art and the community. You guys were good friends. I miss you.
New Job!
I forgot to tell everyone that I am back working!
I am back in my old place of work, and have been back now for 3 weeks. It's working on something different, using a different piece of software, but gone are the days of kids television, I am now working on a feature length animated film as a colourist.
It's different from what I used to do, but I picked up the software in a couple of days and have been churning out the shots. This is a big UK feature too that will no doubt be up for awards, so it is great to be apart of it.
Thanks to those who commissioned me before to help support me financially. I still have 2 more to finish off for :ico
Deviant Artist Questionnaire
I saw a lot of people posting this, and thought I would join in. DeviantArt going on for 15 years, and I was surprised to see that I have been here for two thirds of that time. Anyway, this is a beast of questionnaire, I probably should have made my answers shorter, but I enjoyed writing it, and I hope you enjoy reading it. It brought back some great memories, and was good to dig through some old pieces of art and journals I haven't looked at in years.
01 - How long have you been on DeviantArt?
Coming up to 10 years now! Wow! Didn't realize it was that long! Over a third of my life! Damn that makes me feel reeeeeeally old.
02 - What does yo
AFL Delay My Health
Sorry guys!
There has been a delay in the voting because of me. I was up until 4am last night and got half way through but had to call it a night.
Then today I have been at the hospital to receive news on how my cancer treatment has gone, after having an MRI scan 2 days ago.
I'm pleased to say that there is no sign of cancer or any further development at this time!
It means that we will keep monitoring it, and have another scan in 6 months time, but it's great news anyway, and a little weight lifted off the shoulders.
Anyway, I have submitted my judging results to ~mja42x (https://www.deviantart.com/mja42x) just now, so the next round will be a lot later posted than p
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I think it's an unnecessary rule. If people don't draw their fights, they don't win! It's that simple! Why complicate it?
Now I have the time to draw, I'm out. If this rule wasn't in place, I'd be able to draw fights 3, 4 and so on, and would have more of an incentive to finish up the eight pages of AFL stuff I've drawn but not completed in time for the deadline. As it is, I'm out, so can't contribute to the DU for another month or two and also have no reason to complete the unfinished pages.
I'm not asking for the rules to be changed now - I'm out, it's bad timing - I'll get over it! But I think you should reconsider this next time. The only effect of this rule is to cut people out of a lengthy tournament if they can't draw for two weeks of it.
Now I have the time to draw, I'm out. If this rule wasn't in place, I'd be able to draw fights 3, 4 and so on, and would have more of an incentive to finish up the eight pages of AFL stuff I've drawn but not completed in time for the deadline. As it is, I'm out, so can't contribute to the DU for another month or two and also have no reason to complete the unfinished pages.
I'm not asking for the rules to be changed now - I'm out, it's bad timing - I'll get over it! But I think you should reconsider this next time. The only effect of this rule is to cut people out of a lengthy tournament if they can't draw for two weeks of it.